The Series
Eight episodes. One Argument.
The Standard
Dane Clackworthy
Waterfall Security
The ex Royal Marine who gets how culture is really formed.
The Attacker
Anthony Enoh & James Linton
Social Engineering Experts
The social engineering experts who understand how attackers work.
The Believer
Marie Jeffery
Blue Light Card
The awareness lead who's changed a security culture.
About the Show
The title is the argument.
Everybody passes the training. And it still keeps happening. Because the real test is when they're in the office doing their day job. And that's the bit we talk about on this podcast.
A CISO, a psychologist, a marketer, a Royal Marine, a former police officer. All of them have watched real people make real security decisions, and none of them were invited on to agree with Amy.
Fix it in 60 seconds
Every guest gets a real piece of training content, the kind that's in your inbox right now, and sixty seconds to fix it live. Tune in to see how they do.
Amy Stokes-Waters
Host • Founder & CEO
Wrote the book on engagement in immersive learning and has spent five years watching wjat people do inside a breach that feels real. She has strong opinions on training, and she isn't afraid to voice them.